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  The Problems of Child Abuse

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think it's absolutely disgusting how the organisation has treated childhood victims of pedophilia and rape.

  i think their "standards" of requiring two witnesses for belief is absurd.

  i think how they try and quietly brush things under the rug in the back rooms of kingdom halls is completely despicable.

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  Coded Logic

  I stand corrected. I should have said, "He dated and sexually assaulted 15 year old girls."
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  The Problems of Child Abuse

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think it's absolutely disgusting how the organisation has treated childhood victims of pedophilia and rape.

  i think their "standards" of requiring two witnesses for belief is absurd.

  i think how they try and quietly brush things under the rug in the back rooms of kingdom halls is completely despicable.

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  It's not just the 14 year old. It was also the 16 year old. And this was NOT consent:

  "Instead of answering my question, Mr. Moore reached over and began groping me, putting his hands on my breasts. I tried to open my car door to leave, but he reached over and locked it so I could not get out. I tried fighting him off, while yelling at him to stop, but instead of stopping he began squeezing my neck attempting to force my head onto his crotch. I continued to struggle. I was determined that I was not allow him to force me to have sex with him. I was terrified. He was also trying to pull my shirt off. I thought that he was going to rape me. I was twisting and struggling and begging him to stop. I had tears running down my face. At some point he gave up. He then looked at me and said, “you are a child. I am the District attorney of Etiwah County. If you tell anyone about this, no one will believe you.”"
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  The Problems of Child Abuse

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think it's absolutely disgusting how the organisation has treated childhood victims of pedophilia and rape.

  i think their "standards" of requiring two witnesses for belief is absurd.

  i think how they try and quietly brush things under the rug in the back rooms of kingdom halls is completely despicable.

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  "Mr. Moore attacked me when I was a child," Nelson said, adding that she was 15 when he began flirting with her and 16 at the time of the alleged assault. "I want Mr. Moore to know that he no longer has any power over me."

  The allegations of force would be considered sexual abuse in the first degree.
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  The Problems of Child Abuse

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think it's absolutely disgusting how the organisation has treated childhood victims of pedophilia and rape.

  i think their "standards" of requiring two witnesses for belief is absurd.

  i think how they try and quietly brush things under the rug in the back rooms of kingdom halls is completely despicable.

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  Coded Logic

  I think it's absolutely disgusting how the Organisation has treated childhood victims of pedophilia and rape. I think their "standards" of requiring two witnesses for belief is absurd. I think how they try and quietly brush things under the rug in the back rooms of kingdom halls is completely despicable. And every time I hear about it - it turns my stomach. Because this is an issue upon which we should all agree - don't rape children - and don't support or protect those who do. How can these elders who run around proclaiming the moral purity of the Watchtower be so naive, heartless, and ethically impotent when it comes to protecting children from being sexually assaulted?

  Where is their sense of decency? Where is their humanity?

  Over the past month I've been once again asking these questions. But about a very different organisation. Two weeks ago Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan said they believe Roy Moores accusers - they said they "believe the women". I, of course, was glad to hear them say this. Finally, we were seeing some moral backbone from the Republican leadership. But now this week now they've changed their tune saying it's okay to support Roy Moore. And the RNC has pledged to give over a million dollars to the mans campaign by weeks end.

  Is this what the RNC has become? They've moved on from saying "We don't believe the victims" to "We just don't care" . . . ?

  And the President who ran his campaign on being the "law and order candidate" - has now fully endorsed someone who dated and raped 15 year old girls. Trump is out campaigning for the guy - because, and I quote, "We need his vote".

  I'm beyond outraged. I'm, well, numb. Numb in the same way when I hear the Organisation say, "Yeah, we know the guy groped children in the past but we are going to promote him to Ministerial Servant now because we really need help in the Hall." or "Yeah, we know this guy raped that little girl, never faced the consequences because we told her parents not to go to the police, and he never admitted fault or apologized - but we really - really - need Elders right now so we're going to try him out as an Elder."

  Such have become the words of McConnell, Ryan, and Trump. They know what Moore did. But they just don't care. They "need the votes".
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  I hope this is just a joke, because when reading this board, I thought this was'nt suppose to happen

  by Truth and Justice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi to all the board, .

  i am confused about something that i read on this board.

  it was the subject about the building and development of new kingdom halls.

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  Coded Logic

  I'm confused, if you are not part of that organization for decades, why do you care about any of what they do or don't do?

  Because what the Society does affects many of our friends and families that are still in.
  
  
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  Watchtower Philosophy Debates

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.

  i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.

  i could care less.

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  Coded Logic

  I too usually just scroll past any biblical or theological debates. It's a bit like listening to two nerds discussing if Gandalf the Gray had gray hair or white hair - each citing different passages from Tolkiens work to support their positions - in the end who cares? It's a fictional character!!!

  But there are still a few topics I've found interesting. Like how there's lots of historical evidence for people being crucified on cross' in the first and second centuries. Or that the doctrine of hell fire really is a biblical message that doesn't require any mental gymnastics. And that the teaching of a Trinity - from a Biblical sense - is on a lot more solid footing than I ever imagined. Etc.

  But my interest in these topics only exists as far as my JW ignorance. That is to say - how surprising it is how little I knew about a book I supposedly studied every single week.
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  Is it really possible to disprove the Watchtower?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  dear brothers and sisters,.

  considering the end is so near at hand we thought it important for to reiterate that it's absolutely impossible to prove god's "one true organisation" wrong.

  there is nothing on heaven or earth that could ever be shown to be false or incorrect in our entire .

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  Dear brothers and sisters,

  Considering the end is so near at hand we thought it important for to reiterate that it's absolutely impossible to prove God's "one true organisation" wrong. There is nothing on heaven or earth that could ever be shown to be false or incorrect in our entire . . .

  
  

  . . . oh, don't mind that. And if that was ever stated than clearly that's not what they meant by "generation"

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  . . . oops again . . . Cut the feed. Someone cut the feed!
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  Is All The Bad Publicity About The Watchtower Pedophile Lawsuits Causing Contributions To Nose Dive Worldwide?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think with all the child molestation lawsuits the watchtower corporation is and has been hit with is the main reason for all the prime property sell off recently.

  the silent lambs protest back in 2001, and the dateline prime time expose probably was the death knell for the watchtower's hey day in brooklyn.. their membership is drying up, young people are leaving in droves, the situation is no doubt far worse than the annually published yearbook figures show and so they ceased it's publication permanently.

  and those left remaining are experiencing a huge grab of money from their congregations accounts and now are required to make pledges about how much they can contribute which i think is a last ditch effort by the governing body to squeeze more money out of the rank and file watchtower indoctrinated drones.. i think all this is happening because even those still loyally attending are hearing reports of these tremendous pay out that the watchtower is making to the victims of their self serving policies that put young ones at great risks so that even the rank and file don't want to contribute to pay court costs and so are withholding giving contributions to a very great extent.

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  the situation is no doubt far worse than the annually published yearbook figures show and so they ceased it's publication permanently.

  I wasn't aware the Yearbook was no longer going to be produced. Can anyone confirm this?
  
  
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  NASA - then & now

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. current

  on january 10, 1962 nasa began developing the saturn v rocket (still the most powerful rocket to have ever flown).

  just five years later, on november 9, 1967, it flew its maiden flight.

  the total cost to develop and build the first rocket (apollo 4) was 185 million dollars (adjusted about 2 billion dollars today).. .

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  Coded Logic

  Ttdtt,

  The first block of the SLS will not be more powerful. The article you linked unfortunately has a very misleading headline. But here are the actual numbers the article gives: We have a payload mass to LEO of about 122.4 metric tons [135 tons] for Saturn V . . . Block 1 (SLS), will have a LEO payload capacity of 77 tons (70 metric tons).

  It's not until later variants of the SLS (expected to fly in the late 2020s) that we see a more powerful rocket: Block 2 will max out at 143 tons (130 metric tons) to LEO.
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  NASA - then & now

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. current

  on january 10, 1962 nasa began developing the saturn v rocket (still the most powerful rocket to have ever flown).

  just five years later, on november 9, 1967, it flew its maiden flight.

  the total cost to develop and build the first rocket (apollo 4) was 185 million dollars (adjusted about 2 billion dollars today).. .

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  Coded Logic

  On January 10, 1962 NASA began developing the Saturn V rocket (still the most powerful rocket to have ever flown). Just five years later, on November 9, 1967, it flew its maiden flight. The total cost to develop and build the first rocket (Apollo 4) was 185 million dollars (adjusted about 2 billion dollars today).

  
  

  
  

  In November of 2005, NASA began developing the Ares rockets (later on becoming the Space Launch System). Having spent over 18 billion dollars on the program it's still not expected to fly until summer of 2020.

  Let's recap -

  • Apollo V: 5 years - 2 billion dollars spent
  • SLS: 15 years - over 18 billion dollars spent

  Oh yeah, one thing I forgot to mention, after the SLS flies it's first mission the Saturn V will STILL be the most powerful rocket to have ever flown. How in our modern technological age is this possible?